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08-7-2018 19:53:01  #1


Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

Hello, all,

I'm a newbie and just bought a 1939 Royal Aristocrat whose carriage won't advance when using the spacebar or any of the keys. Otherwise, it appears to be in really good condition. The carriage moves back and forth very smoothly when I use the carriage release levers. I've given it a cleaning and replaced the draw strap and that seems fine now.  I've traced the linkages as far as I can and don't see any problem up to the escape wheel, but I can't see all the mechanics in there. I'm thinking I'd like to take the carriage off, so that I can see what's going on, but can't find any manuals on how to do that, and am thinking I might be over my head if I try to wing it.  I have a Royal KMM, and I know removing (and replacing!) their carriage is complicated, even with the military service manual that is available on line.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

 

10-7-2018 00:35:15  #2


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

Hi RCC

Getting the carriage off isn't the hard part, it's getting it back on again with all 4 carriage rail balls timed correctly and their corresponding star rings or anti-creep wheels in their correct positions. If you want to get a better look at the escapement, you'd be much further ahead to remove the platen and the paper trough so you can see the escapement from on top by looking through the slots in the carriage.

Also, check to see that the universal bar isn't stuck. This is the bar that runs across the very tail ends of the key levers. Move this bar up and down with your fingers to see if the escapement trips. I would post some pictures, but I had an argument with Photobucket and haven' signed up to a new photo hosting website yet. Let us know what you find,

Sky

 

10-7-2018 18:24:43  #3


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

Sky,

Thanks for the advice.

Yeah, ever since I was a little guy, I've been  learning that taking apart is a lot easier than putting back together!  I knew the Royal KMM carriage is really hard to remount, and I was afraid the Aristocrat's, being of the same period, would be similar.

I'm glad to hear that removing the platen and paper trough will give me another view angle - I didn't think it would. I think I can handle that operation. It'll give me a chance to do some more cleaning and check out the rollers too,

I'll keep you posted. Thanks again,
RCC

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10-7-2018 18:28:28  #4


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

Sky,

I forgot to add that the universal bar seems to be free - it moves about 1/8" and moves the linkages that go up toward the escapement - as does the space bar.  I'm not sure if that is the normal distance, though.

RCC

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05-8-2018 16:29:26  #5


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

Hi RCC,
I don't know if you need this, but I made a post on removing and replacing a KMM carriage. The pictures disappeared a while back so that's why it's posted twice. 
http://typewriter.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=2140

 

05-8-2018 19:29:41  #6


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

SquireDante wrote:

Hi RCC,
I don't know if you need this, but I made a post on removing and replacing a KMM carriage. The pictures disappeared a while back so that's why it's posted twice. 
http://typewriter.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=2140

Removing the carriage on a Royal portable is an entirely different procedure from the Royal standard models.

 

06-8-2018 15:26:06  #7


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

SoucekFan wrote:

Removing the carriage on a Royal portable is an entirely different procedure from the Royal standard models.

Oh, I know it's completely different. I had a very frustrating time with a Royal Arrow and came to the conclusion that it was just poorly designed. 
I thought that since RCC mentioned the KMM that I'd share with them my experience with the two I worked on.

 

06-8-2018 15:44:00  #8


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

SquireDante wrote:

...snip...
Oh, I know it's completely different. I had a very frustrating time with a Royal Arrow and came to the conclusion that it was just poorly designed. 
...snip...

Oh, come on. I don't think you can call a Royal typewriter "poorly designed" just because you can't deal with it. They were never designed nor intended to be dismantled, reassembled, or even adjusted by users. They were not made to be worked on by amateurs and when they were designed there was no thought that someday trained professionals would not be available. In fact it is a testimony to their good design that so many are still working so well, unless they have been abused. 

 

06-8-2018 18:38:14  #9


Re: Royal Aristocrat Carriage Removal

I didn't say I couldn't "deal with it." I took it apart, cleaned it and reassembled it to working condition (aside from the 'a' key that was snapped in half). But while I was doing it I couldn't help but wonder if there wasn't a better way to place parts. They must have had a very impressive assembly line and collection of tools to prevent the awkwardness I encountered. And I am pleased with the quality it's retained all these years later.

 

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