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Standard Typewriters » SG-3 Line lock? » 25-8-2021 11:11:21

dragon typer
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All's well that ends well, Uwe; I appreciate your reply.

More generally and not specific to the SG 3: 

This entire discussion, and especially thetypewriterman's forceful intervention, raises a number of interesting (and probably irresolvable) paradoxes, tensions, and oxymorons.  I am thinking here of the indisputable importance of specialized expertise, on the one hand, and its necessary relationship to amateurism, on the other hand.  With a domain like mechanical typewriters, which are a form of antiquated knowledge, over-emphasis on the exclusivity of specialized expertise would mean, eventually, the death of repairs and the complete shriveling up of that very expertise.  After all, for all the distaste of the internet and of "influencers," it is the amateurs (and since early 2000s, the *internet-fueled* amateurs) who are reviving and creating unprecedented demand for typewriter repair knowledge.  Would it really be possible to think of the current interest in typewriters without taking into account Richard Polt's books and blogs, or the documentary film California Typewriter, for example?  Without this groundswell of amateur interest, there would be scant financial, social, or status support for typewriter repair persons.  Historically, it is worth noting that a job that was once very commonplace and not so high in social status--typewriter repair--has taken on a rapid rise in *social status* with the internet fueled growth of amateur typewriter lovers.  These days, for example, no one thinks much of the store corner iphone screen repair shops that dot every major city; as any yellowpage book from the 1960s will demonstrate, typewriter repairpersons used to similarly be a dime a dozen.  But, in the amateur, internet-driven typewriter environment that arose in the early 2000s, those repairpersons who managed to survive the near-death of the typewriter from 1980-2000 have taken on a kind of elite status within the typewriter world.  (Thus my use, only s

Standard Typewriters » SG-3 Line lock? » 24-8-2021 16:37:52

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[rant] As a side note, I'm wondering if this is an example of how the internet, social media, and self-publishing has contorted our designation of authoritative sources....I don't know who the OP's authority is, nor do I need to; however, I did cringe at the "typewriter god" description and have to wonder if this god is someone who actually worked in the typewriter industry, or is just an enthusiast like most of us here who became an influencer by way of self-promotion.

Dear Uwe: I'm very sorry your professional life has been overrun by self-annointed, internet-driven experts.  Speaking of the negativity made possible by the internet, let us consider, however, your own rant, which makes a startling number of assumptions about me (and my criteria for ascribing expertise) and about the interolcutor that I cited.  May I offer, perhaps, a more positive direction the conversation might have taken?

You: Dragon Typer, could you share more about why the basis on which you attribute expertise to the person who told you about the SG 3?

Me: Sure!  While I don't want to specifically name the person, since we were engaged in a private, face to face conversation that was not meant for broadcast on the internet, I don't mind telling you a few things about them.  They own and operate a brick and mortar typewriter repair in a major US city, where they have been located for the last 40 years.  They are one of the last fully trained typewriter repair people left.  Their business took a real dive when the personal computer appeared, but they managed to hang on and survive until the (internet-driven!) typewriter "revival" in the early 2000s.  Today, they run a brisk sales and repair business, and they are often consulted by other professionally trained repair people for advice on difficult problems.

You: Oh, wow, they certainly do sound like the genuine article, and not one of these internet-driven "influencers" that make me want to throw up in my mouth.

Me: I know,

Standard Typewriters » SG-3 Line lock? » 23-8-2021 17:25:50

dragon typer
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Also, when in doubt, consult the user manual:

https://site.xavier.edu/polt/typewriters/OlympiaSG3-English-Manual.pdf

The language about the margin release, on page 5, is very straightforward, with nary a mention of anything different from how margin releases work on nearly every other manual typewriter in existence.  No mention of special spacebar powers to blow past the right margin and release the line lock.  No mention of infinite continuation of typing past the right margin.  Just a plain old hard right stop with line lock and a dedicated margin release key to overcome it.

So what gives?



 

Standard Typewriters » SG-3 Line lock? » 23-8-2021 17:09:39

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M. Höhne:

It is a figure who most would immediately recognize in the typewriter world by name. 

In this particular instance, this person and I were both examining an SG 3.  I remarked how odd it was that the keys continued to strike indefinitely after the bell sounded and after the right margin.  I kept setting the right margin further and further to the left, all the way to the middle of an 8.5 x 11 inch page.  Still, the keys kept printing all the way to the end of the paper.  Thus, well past the pattern described by you and your interlocutor in the previously linked thread.

I asked the figure about this, stating that surely there was a mechanical defect with the right margin / line lock.  The figure replied that this was normal for an SG 3.  We then took out an SG 1 for comparison.  With the SG 1, the line lock did engage after x spaces past the right margin.

I am now inclined to think that the figure remembered something about the SG 3 (namely, that tab stops and space bar continues after the right margin, and characters start printing again after x spaces with the space bar), but that they mistakenly generalized this knowledge to the defective specimen immediately before us.

My takeaway: even the typewriter gods err from time to time.  No harm, no foul.



 

Standard Typewriters » SG-3 Line lock? » 23-8-2021 12:52:09

dragon typer
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Hi Uwe, thanks for confirming my premonition.  Had this reliable authority not been so well-known and well-respected, I would have dismissed this information immediately.  But good to know that, of course, the SG-3 has a hard stop, line lock, and margin release on the right margin.  I shall continue my search for one to bring home.

Standard Typewriters » SG-3 Line lock? » 23-8-2021 10:53:07

dragon typer
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Was told by a reputable authority that the Olympia SG-3 does not have a right margin line lock, and that it will simply keep typing past the right margin, even after the bell sounds.  Can any SG-3 owners confirm or disconfirm this?  Was very interested in getting an SG-3 but lack of a hard stop and line lock at the right margin would disqualify this machine for me, since I often get "lost" in my writing and the letters would simply pile up and/or I'd type right off the paper onto the platen, warning bell notwithstanding.

Electric Typewriters » Olympia SGE 45...In-Coming » 23-8-2021 10:50:29

Nice find, Pete!  Congratulations.

Parts » FS: 1930s Smith Corona Flattop Parts » 23-8-2021 10:46:10

Parting out a 1930s SC Flattop.  Write me directly if interested.

Standard Typewriters » Facit 1730 Standard? » 22-8-2021 10:50:29

Update: decided against purchasing this 1730 based on its extremely poor condition.  Too bad, looks like it could be a great typer if in better shape.

Maintenance & Repairs » Facit TP1 - Upper/Lower Case Alignment... » 19-8-2021 17:28:30

dragon typer
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Phil, these are all good thoughts, thank you for taking the time to think through this problem with me.   I will update this thread once I am able to spend more time with the TP1.

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