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03-11-2016 08:45:46  #1


This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?


Actually, at least three of these things went skittering around the floor when I took off the carriage.
Anyone know if they are, in fact, part of an SG1 (and if so what part and what do they do), or simply something foreign to the machine and nothing to worry about.
Thanks!


Sincerely,
beak.
 
 

03-11-2016 09:16:07  #2


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

Those are split rivets and are often used for holding thick stacks of paper when a staple is too small. They have other rivet-type uses, too, of course, but are not the kind of technology that Olympia would use to build a typewriter.

 

03-11-2016 09:24:19  #3


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

Yipes! 

The only part that comes to mind that is similarly shaped would be the pivot pins for the paper bail arms, but they're smaller - and there wouldn't be three of them (never mind that you would have noticed the paper bail falling off your carriage). 

Have you ever had the carriage off that SG1 before? Did they fall out as you were lifting the carriage off the machine, or doing something else like turning it over after it was off? Does the carriage have a paper injector?

EDIT: Posted my reply at the same time as Michael did, who thankfully knew what it was and it makes sense how such an item could find it's way into a typewriter carriage. Keep shaking it, Beak. Maybe there's some loose change in there too...


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03-11-2016 10:59:11  #4


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

I learned something today -- never seen these before. I have seen pieces that thread into each other to hold stacks of paper together (like for a long document), but these look different. Thanks, Michael. Based on the things that do fall out of typewriters from time to time, you may well have some other good stuff in there, Beak.

 

03-11-2016 11:26:58  #5


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

I was advised to look for foreign matter in the machine when I asked someone why the slugs would not quite reach the platen when typing - this was their best guess.  This particular SG1 has had a sad life before I got it, but repairs are now to a state where she's nearly breathing - just can't get those slugs to the paper!  I know the problem is in the machine, not the carriage, because I swapped it with other SG1 carriages of the same pitch and it worked fine on other SG1s, but none of my SG1 carriages will work on this one - the problem is always the same.  The keys rise as normal, and the action feels normal, but the slugs stop dead about a millimetre from the platen - unless I really hammer the keys - then they will.  Any other thoughts on this problem would be kindly received - determined to get this one working!


Sincerely,
beak.
 
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03-11-2016 12:04:34  #6


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

A "ring and cylinder" adjustment needed maybe? Maybe the platen needs to be brought forward a touch so the typebars will contact the platen without too much extra effort.

I have this problem with a few keys on an SM-7 I just got -- makes me think those typebars need slight forming (or the slugs need resoldering), since it's only a few jeys. Have you tried a backing sheet to see if that will help at all?

 

03-11-2016 16:18:40  #7


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

You might want to look around in the escapement mechanism, or the universal bar frame that trips the escapement mechanism to see if another one of those rivet-looking things is gumming up the works.  You may have quite a load of those little critters infesting your machine.  Only the Good Lord above knows just how many strange things I've fished out of typewriters all these years.


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05-11-2016 02:58:47  #8


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

Update on the SG1 - fixed it.

Fed up with fruitless searching the web for details on the correct procedure, I just took a screwdriver and moved the two plates which hold the carriage forward a little - problem vanished as though it had never been!

Now just one thing remains on this poor monster that was so heavily damaged in transit that I never thought it would work again.  The section will not drop under its own steam after being shifted -  unless the whole machine is tilted backwards a little.  I have to pull the shift key back up after using it.
I have identified the linkages and springs which are intended to do this job, but can find nothing wrong with them so far.  Any other ideas would be a pleasure to hear.

This may all bring a happy ending to the first post in the thread 'Another machine destroyed in the post' - which would be quite something!


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beak.
 
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05-11-2016 11:59:28  #9


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

Congratulations on the progress you're making, Beak.

I'm sure you're aware that cylinder adjustments are a very delicate procedure involving micro adjustments to set up the proper gap between the type slug and the surface of the platen. It's the ring, and not the platen that should be stopping the typebar's swing. Arbitrarily moving the carriage could result in the platen taking the full brunt of the type swing, which would be very damaging to the machine, never mind what it would do to the ribbon and paper.

For the SG1 there should be a gap of 0.007 inch (0.18 mm) between the surface of the typeface and the platen, and this should be tested using characters from the middle and each extreme end of the keyboard, and of course with the carriage moved between its extreme right limit of travel, mid-position, and extreme left to make sure that everything is true. 


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05-11-2016 16:41:42  #10


Re: This just fell out of my Olympia SG1 - what is it please?

Sounds like a feeler gauge would need to be used for this procedure.  I used one in  technical school when I was practicing aligning pump motors and gapping spark plugs.  Would you, by chance, have the information, or know where I could get the information, on the gap on a '52 Royal HH?  I've been concerned with one of my prize typewriters, and I wanted to be sure.


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