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19-6-2015 07:19:47  #11


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Hello all,

Thank you for responding. I'm sorry it has taken a little while for me to post pictures, I've had some things on the go. I'm going to post a link to a pinterest board of mine that is specifically related to my Underwood. Please take a look and see if anything strikes you as a cause to the problem at hand. If you require any other pictures of particular areas in more detail do not hesitate to say and I will take more.

EDIT: Pictures uploaded to this thread.

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19-6-2015 12:21:21  #12


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Pinterest won't cooperate with me. The photo gets covered by a "join" screen one second after I open it. Looks like an Underwood 3 to me, and the keys are not original, most likely replaced some time during the '50s.


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19-6-2015 12:54:16  #13


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

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19-6-2015 13:28:16  #14


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Well, the shift keys and lock are not depressed as you stated, so that isn't the issue. It's difficult from the angle the side photos were taken, but it could be the carriage is in the raised position. Could you provide a photo/scan of a type sample? Be sure to use every key on the keyboard in order. In the meantime I'll pull out an Underwood 3 and see if I can verify the carriage position in your photos.


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19-6-2015 13:55:59  #15


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Thank you Uwe, that would be most helpful. Please find below a type sample, and a few extra pictures. Please note picture #3 is with the shift not depressed and #4 is with it depressed. 

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19-6-2015 14:09:18  #16


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Very strange. Doe the carriage move at all when you use the shift key, because from photo 3 and 4 it looks like it does - but that could be an inconsistent camera angle playing tricks on me. The strange thing is that if your carriage was stuck in the shifted position that rod in the centre of your photo should be higher, but as your type sample proves, the machine is only typing the uppercase character set.


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19-6-2015 14:11:44  #17


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Yes the carriage does raise a fraction when I use shift key. Photo 3 is how the carriage rests, photo 4 is when the shift key is depressed. If I put some leverage on the carriage it does give a little but if I hit a key it gives half uppercase and half lowercase, so perhaps the carriage is raised?

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19-6-2015 14:19:33  #18


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

The other strange thing is that normally the numeral characters are part of the lowercase character set. A photo of your type slugs would be interesting to look at if its sharp enough to make them out, because I'm starting to wonder if your lower and uppercase characters are reversed. What a fascinating machine you would have if that turns out to be the case. If the carriage is only moving slightly and you can get it to type half characters, then it is an issue with the carriage. I would carefully following the shift key bar on each side and all of its repsective linkages to find what the obstruction might be that is preventing it from being fully raised. I had assumed because it was only typing uppercase that the carriage was stuck in the shifted position, but if you have some bizarre typeset it's more likely that it's stuck in the lowercase position. 


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19-6-2015 14:58:06  #19


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

I think it could very be well be a carriage issue. In the photo with the type sample, I applied firm pressure with one hand on the carriage and typed with the other hand and those were the results.

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19-6-2015 15:23:35  #20


Re: Shift key problems/capitals locked Underwood No 3/5

Okay, normal slugs, but still a fascinating character set on that machine with the numbers being moved to the upper case to make room for the French characters (which later would have been done with dead accent keys). It's a shame that the keys are not original. Or maybe the slugs and keys were replaced at the same time. It's all very interesting.

Back to the problem. Your carriage is stuck in the raised position. I assume you "applied pressure" downward on it to get the lower case 'k' in your photo? If so, the advice remains the same as when we started this thread off. Either something is physically blocking the carriage from lowering, or one of its many shift linkages or carriage slides is fouled with rust or something else that is preventing it from lowering. I'd go over everything very carefully to see if you can determine which of the two it might be. When you press down on the carriage, try to determine what is stopping it from going further. Wish I could help more - it would be relatively easy if I was sitting in front of the typewriter - but over cyberspace makes it a bit of a challenge. Good luck! 


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