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16-7-2016 20:46:40  #1


Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

I noticed something with a Touch-Master 5 that I have just fixed up, and wonder how to adjust this.

Upper case characters (i.e. all shifted characters) are properly spaced with respect to each other. The same is true for all lower case (unshifted). Yet typing with them together, it appears that the upper case are a little to the right relative to lower case. Thus, an initial capital bumps right up against the lower case letter right next to it. Also, an apostrophe is farther away than optimal from the lower case letter immediately preceding it.

This is maybe best illustrated by typing an exclamation point the "old school" way, using the apostrophe, backspacing, and typing a period. The lower case period does not align vertically with the apostrophe; it's slightly to the left. The upper case period is perfectly aligned with it. (The Touch-Master has a dedicated 1/! key however.)  I have noticed this with other typewriters that don't have a ! character, so maybe this isn't so unusual, but it may be a little more obvious with the Touch-Master.

So -- is there an adjustment for this? Thanks!

 

16-7-2016 21:20:09  #2


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

It sounds to me like one of the shifting adjustments is out of whack with the other one, tilting the basket slightly to the right when you shift.    From what you've described, the right castle nut is just slightly lower than the left one.  Try turning it a quarter turn counter-clockwise and see if your caps align better with your lower cases.  Then fine tune it in a little at a time until you don't notice any tilting of the basket.  Underwoods are N O T O R I O U S about this.


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17-7-2016 21:20:17  #3


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

I think you are right. While I was turning both castle nuts the same amount, it was apparent to me that the left hand one actually wasn't doing anything -- it was not coming into contact with the lower stop (for the upper case). Who knows how this would have happened. But I figured that this didn't mean anything, since adjusting the right hand one seemed to be enough to bring the upper and lower case characters into alignment. But your comment makes me think that this means the basket would in fact be tilted slightly left -- which would possibly cause the upper case letters to shift to the right.  I will try this adjustment out and see what happens; won't be able to get to it for a couple of days at least, though.  Thanks again for your expertise!

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21-7-2016 22:14:07  #4


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

I feel as though I'm about to go down a rabbit hole -- the letters are lined up horizontally, upper case and lower, but definitely when I shift I notice the right side of the basket tilting down farther than the left side. So that would indicate that I need to turn the right side castle nut clockwise a fair amount, so as to raise the stop higher and (hopefully) bring the upper case and lower case into vertical alignment. At that point, I will need to turn both castle nuts in synch with each other until I get the upper case and lower case back into horizontal alignment. Make sense?

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22-7-2016 17:19:23  #5


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

Yes.  Turn the right side clockwise and the left side counter-clockwise in synch, like you said (maybe a quarter turn to start with.  You should see a bit of an improvement.  Let me know how you come out of that rabbit hole.


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22-7-2016 21:31:25  #6


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

Oh -- actually when I was talking about turning the two nuts in synch, I meant turning them both counterclockwise so as to bring the upper and lower case back into horizontal alignment. (Turning the right hand castle nut clockwise so as to try and correct the vertical alignment has thrown the horizontal way out of adjustment, but has made some slight improvement on the vertical alignment.)

But you make a good point -- I should turn the right side nut clockwise, and left side counterclockwise, to hopefully get things truly vertically aligned, now that I seem to have the upper case stops pretty much lined up evenly on both sides.

Then, at that point, I believe I should be turning both nuts counterclockwise, in synch, to bring things back into horizontal alignment. Sound right?

Many thanks for your advice here!

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22-7-2016 23:09:55  #7


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

That should do it.  You must be in the fine-tuning phase.  It's a bit of trial and error here, but remember that if you turn the right side a part of a turn or a whole turn one way, you've got to turn the other side the same part of a turn or a whole turn the same way to horizontally aligned.  Good luck.  Before too long, you should have your Underwood adjusted fairly close, if not on the button.  Let me know how you come out.


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24-7-2016 16:17:42  #8


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

Well, I've got it a little bit closer, I think. But I found that the bolt holding the left side castle nut actually started backing out of the plate into which it's threaded, so I am not sure how to tighten that down. Also, I notice that when I depress the shift key, the entire right side of the basket drops a little lower than the left side -- not that the stop on the right side is lower. So I am wondering if there is something more basically out of whack, which can't be compensated for by adjusting the castle nuts. Maybe the connections between the shift keys and the basket? I may fiddle some more with tightening the right side nut and loosening the left side nut, but I am not optimistic that it'll make much difference. but thanks so much for your invaluable guidance here!

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24-7-2016 16:25:07  #9


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

The bolt is held in place at the top by a jamnut.  Open the ribbon cover and you should see it.  I'm not sure what the exact size it is, but if you are in possession of a good nut driver set (it should be standard unless it has gone more into Olivetti territory than I thought, but a side not is that some metric sizes are equal to some standard sizes--just find one that closely fits it, spin that left side bolt until it just snugs up to the stop on the shifting mechanism (you should be far along enough on your adjustments by this time to be able to do this).  Then, depress the shift key, lock it, and see if both sides of the shifting mechanism bottom on both castle nuts the same.  This is all assuming you have a good capital/lower case adjustment, or are at least close enough not to worry too much (I used to be really picky, but some machines are so close I don't bother with a millimeter or two).  Anyway, I hope this helped.


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24-7-2016 18:35:25  #10


Re: Shifted and Nonshifted Characters Not Aligned

You had mentioned that jamnut before -- not really sure what I should be looking for, but as I recall (would need to take another look), there were no jamnuts, but rather screw-slotted nuts. And none of them is really accessible.

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