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25-8-2016 15:37:40  #1


Type Pitch

What was the reason for the Pica or Elite cpi?  I myself prefer the Elite. Pica seems more readable for me only when double spaced.  Any relation to style of correspondence or format?

 

25-8-2016 21:36:01  #2


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Hi Joe

 ​Some of the more seasoned members will likely give the true reason for the different sizes, However, I have noticed that generally, typewriters for home use tend to be 10 CPI where office units tend to lean more towards the 12 CPI. My reckoning is the 10 CPI is for ease of reading letters from friends and family, whereas 12 CPI is for getting more information per page on business letters. Just my thoughts.
  All the best
  Sky


We humans go through many computers in our lives, but in their lives, typewriters go through many of us.
In that way, they’re like violins, like ancestral swords. So I use mine with honor and treat them with respect.
I try to leave them in better condition than I met them. I am not their first user, nor will I be their last.
Frederic S. Durbin. (Typewriter mania and the modern writer)
 

25-8-2016 22:18:40  #3


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From my experience, standards tend to have elite typefaces than pica typefaces. Currently in my collection, 6 out of 8 standards that I have (or 75%) are have elite typefaces. And the inverse is true with my portables: most of them tend to be pica than elite. However, quoting the Royal 10 brochure from 1915, elite is "A very handsome letter for personal correspondence" while pica is "The standard type for general purposes." Now, "personal correspondence" may have had a slightly different meaning as a saying back then (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and "personal" may have just meant something along the lines of a private or exclusive letter. I do know that a lot of business typewriters were used in letters between businesses, as a lot of the old video reels with typewriters in them stress the importance of having a very neat, and clean typed page for letters. ​That's all I know, hope it helps.


A high schooler with a lot of typewriters. That's pretty much about it.
 

25-8-2016 22:30:11  #4


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I just picked up a 1950 sage green  RC Allen (Woodstock) standard model. It was Pica, so I "tested" it against the others that were Elite.  I definitely favor the Elite type.  I remember in typing class about the different sizes, just can't recall the reason.  If I find any "professional" opinion or fact in print or in person, I'll post here.

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25-8-2016 22:31:00  #5


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My view of this is somewhat different.  Firstly, take a look at any paperback novel in terms of the size of the print - it's virtually microscopic compared to all but the most specialized typewriters; it's even smaller than my 17cpi machine.  Not many would think the paperback novel 'hard' to read.

I think it's simply a matter of choice, based on how much text you intend to deliver on each sheet, and how you prefer the overall appearance of the text.  Many business letters are relatively short, so a larger typeface may be better in terms of appearance, by reducing the amount of blank paper.

There are other considerations; the text more likely to be reproduced - cyclostyled or photocopied - in a business application, and therefore a 10cpi text may be chosen for clarity.

Many other factors, but no rules other than habit and common practice, I think.


Sincerely,
beak.
 
 

25-8-2016 23:19:53  #6


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ztyper wrote:

From my experience, standards tend to have elite typefaces than pica typefaces. Currently in my collection, 6 out of 8 standards that I have (or 75%) are have elite typefaces. And the inverse is true with my portables: most of them tend to be pica than elite.

I agree that Pica is more common on portables, but I think for the standards, it might depend on the era. I mostly look at pre-1950's standards, and I find Pica seems to me more common on those. Just to double check, I looked just now at the first 50 standards I could find on eBay--which I must note is not a good indication of all typewriters, as eBay tends to have more older American standards--and 33 were pica and 17 elite. This is not scientific, but that seems to be about what I find when I am antiquing. Of my own collection, 2 out of 7 of my standards are elite, but the standards in my collection are of a similar demographic to the eBay sample--almost all pre-50's American brands. I used to think elite was more common on standards, until I had trouble finding certain standards in elite. I think on older typewriters, pica may have been more common--but I could be wrong.
 

 

26-8-2016 14:21:07  #7


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As a broad-brush generalisation, Pica is pre-war and Elite is post-war.  Of course, there were Elite typewriters around before the war and Pica ones afterwards, but the tendency was to go towards Elite.  Regarding standard typewriters, remember that most firms (the main users of office typewriters) often had several machines.  Large firms had hundreds !  Therefore for a long time after the war, they would continue to order Pica machines so that all their typewritten correspondence matched.  The majority of pre-war portables that I have seen are Pica.  With private users generally only having the one machine, I'm guessing that the uptake in Elite happened a lot faster than it did in the business world  Just to throw the cat amongst the pidgeons, the third option - Continental Elite (11 characters per inch) also appears on post-war portables, mainly German, Swiss and Japanese.  Some manufacturers seemed to make their machines almost exclusively with this typeface - a case of one (compromise) size fits all !  You would have thought that Pica on portables would have largely died the death during the 1950's, but it didn't.  It remained an option with many manufacturers right until the end of production.  In fact, the majority of late Yugoslav-made Olympia Travellers have it, whereas most 1960's Olympia Splendids are in Continental Elite.

 

27-8-2016 01:30:25  #8


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I did a bit of research, and digging up period trade articles dating the teens, pre-teens, and twenties. It seems up to the twenties companies offered a variety of typefaces. In addition, standards for business forms, correspondence, and adaption of machines to existing tabulation and filing systems were also being thought out. An 1893 training booklet points out pica or elite was more of personal preference.  I remember the business correspondence I've seen was usually single spaced elite as the actual message area was limited by letterhead, perhaps a sidebar with addresses or phone numbers, salutations and closures. From about the twenties onward, the selections seemed standardized to Pica or Elite, particularly with the release of the Underwood No. 5. I  discovered there are conventions depending on the purpose and recipient of typed material. Rules for Federal Appellate Court attorney submissions, Screen Writers script standards, and Publisher/Editor manuscript submissions all specify that if typewritten they must be Pica type double spaced. This enhances readibility, and leaves room for comments, editing , and other notations; plus it aids in word count for the composing room if being published. Using the typwriter to fill out forms such as for machine maintenance or job applications, I found the Elite typeface the most useful for little boxes.  Someday I might get some insight from someone in "the trade"; but the history so far answers a lot of why.

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