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I just picket the machine up from the repair shop.
It does not have a decimal tabulator
the keys are white with black letters
Shift key says shift
Tab key says Tabular
the lower right keys are fractions and /
Keyboard is qwerty
There is a decal on the curved faceplate over the keyboard
There is red detailing on the tab bar on the back of the carriage
The bottom is open however there are four screw holes ( with one screw remaining) that could have held a bottom cover.
Text on the margin release is curved around the button on the face of the typewriter.
I hope this helps.
SM
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Oh yea, my serial number is SX-1544841
I'm guessint it's around 1930's vintage.
SM
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I purchased a Refurbished ( on the back there was a decal that stated this) Royal 10 w/ double beveled glass panels...
My problem is the carriage and carriage release arms. When I first received this all was working perfectly
I've taken apart to have all the feed rollers and platen recovered. the inside working parts I've gently cleaned with denatured alcohol.
Once I received my newly recovered platen and rollers I reassembled to the typewriter.
let me say I also polished all the silver pieces and removed the carriage release arms to do a better job.
ok here's my problem...
i reattach the carriage release arms on both sides but seem to bee very lose and both release arms kinda flop and barley release the carriage. the upper carriage rail I literally have to pull downward for it to catch to so that the carriage will stay in place.
The carriage itself seems to be a bit wiggly and when test typing it will stop from advancing and then sometimes no problem it will advance and ring the bell.
The drawband is good not lose. I've looked the best I can at the teeth on the rails and nothing seems to be broken and feel sharp.
Does anyone have any suggestions of what I might check or how to better inspect the carriage?
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T1peMOnkey, I know this thread is about a year old now but I just joined and saw your questions regarding a Royal 10 typewriter. I'm doing research on the one I just acquired at an antique shop in Kansas City, KS. I live in northern New Mexico. I have not done anything to the one I have yet but it works (grudgingly). I will get it back into shape both mechanically and visually, however, without too much problem. It is dirty but in very good condition overall.
The one I have has a very wide carriage. The platen itself is 20 inches wide. The carriage from platen knob to platen knob is 25 inches wide. It has an extra row of 10 tabulation keys above the standard QWERTY keyboard. It also has the tabulator mechanism on the back of the typewriter which is controlled by those tab keys. The tab keys are labeled as follows from left to right: (The first looks like a period, the 5th and 9th look like comas, and the "TH'S" letters are beneath the number next to them here as is the "MIL".
. 1 10 100 , 1000 10 TH'S 100 TH'S , 1 MIL
I have no idea what the period and coma notations are designed to represent. Otherwise there is no specific "TAB" key with any such TAB noted label. Just the one's shown above.
The letter and number keys are white with black letters. The tab keys are black with white letters. There are 3 Royal logo decals, all in gold: one on the back plate where the paper is inserted into the carriage, one on the curved faceplate just above the tab keys, and one on the back of the machine on the tabulator mechanism. They all appear to be the same size, shape, and color. There is also another logo on the paper back plate above the platen, not sure of the shape but it has the Royal typewriter image and "Royal" beneath it, sort of looks like a cup with a crown on top. There are 2 more decals on the back tabulator mechanism, one is the typewriter company where it came from in Topeka, KS, the other is the "protected by American and foreign patents" decal.
The carriage tension feels sluggish and especially loose when the carriage is far to the left. I was wondering if this is due to the fact that the carriage is so long? I have not cleaned the carriage rails yet but I saw that this was the recommended first step here so I will do that before I worry about the tension. I don't believe anything is missing on this machine. I even have all 10 of the tab setting pieces on the back tab slotted bar. When I brought it home 2 had fallen out in the car and fortunately I saw them and put them back.
There is also a "Lower Stencil Upper" label and lever on the right side front. Like the tab keys this is new to me so I don't know it's function at present.
Lastly I have a serial number but I'm unsure of the prefix as yet. It appears to be "20-1071044". The reason I'm unsure of the first part is that the tabulator mechanism on the back of the typewriter is attached to the frame and part of that is over the serial number plate. The "20-" is right at the front edge so I can't see what might be before the number 2 (if anything). In researching serial numbers I have not seen any number prefixes so I'm a bit puzzled about this number 20. The number after the dash tells me that this is perhaps a 1927 model.
If you or anyone else here has any thoughts on anything I said, please feel free to share them with me. I really like this machine. It's now my 9th typewriter in my collection and looking forward to getting it back into shape.
Justin
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Sounds to me like the 20 represents the carriage length. As for the 10-key decimal tabulator, the commas represent where to put the comma in a given number when you're using the typewriter for ledger or banking or accounting work. Carriages of this length tend to be heavier, thus a little bit more sluggish, so you won't want to try to type with it too fast. The main thing to check for is how smooth the carriage travel is. If its smooth and still feels like a railroad car, it's all right. You're not going to get any appreciable speed out of anything other than a really short carriage or a Selectric element.
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TheMachineAge wrote:
T1peMOnkey, I know this thread is about a year old now but I just joined and saw your questions regarding a Royal 10 typewriter. I'm doing research on the one I just acquired at an antique shop in Kansas City, KS. I live in northern New Mexico. I have not done anything to the one I have yet but it works (grudgingly). I will get it back into shape both mechanically and visually, however, without too much problem. It is dirty but in very good condition overall.
The one I have has a very wide carriage. The platen itself is 20 inches wide. The carriage from platen knob to platen knob is 25 inches wide. It has an extra row of 10 tabulation keys above the standard QWERTY keyboard. It also has the tabulator mechanism on the back of the typewriter which is controlled by those tab keys. The tab keys are labeled as follows from left to right: (The first looks like a period, the 5th and 9th look like comas, and the "TH'S" letters are beneath the number next to them here as is the "MIL".
. 1 10 100 , 1000 10 TH'S 100 TH'S , 1 MIL
I have no idea what the period and coma notations are designed to represent. Otherwise there is no specific "TAB" key with any such TAB noted label. Just the one's shown above.
The letter and number keys are white with black letters. The tab keys are black with white letters. There are 3 Royal logo decals, all in gold: one on the back plate where the paper is inserted into the carriage, one on the curved faceplate just above the tab keys, and one on the back of the machine on the tabulator mechanism. They all appear to be the same size, shape, and color. There is also another logo on the paper back plate above the platen, not sure of the shape but it has the Royal typewriter image and "Royal" beneath it, sort of looks like a cup with a crown on top. There are 2 more decals on the back tabulator mechanism, one is the typewriter company where it came from in Topeka, KS, the other is the "protected by American and foreign patents" decal.
The carriage tension feels sluggish and especially loose when the carriage is far to the left. I was wondering if this is due to the fact that the carriage is so long? I have not cleaned the carriage rails yet but I saw that this was the recommended first step here so I will do that before I worry about the tension. I don't believe anything is missing on this machine. I even have all 10 of the tab setting pieces on the back tab slotted bar. When I brought it home 2 had fallen out in the car and fortunately I saw them and put them back.
There is also a "Lower Stencil Upper" label and lever on the right side front. Like the tab keys this is new to me so I don't know it's function at present.
Lastly I have a serial number but I'm unsure of the prefix as yet. It appears to be "20-1071044". The reason I'm unsure of the first part is that the tabulator mechanism on the back of the typewriter is attached to the frame and part of that is over the serial number plate. The "20-" is right at the front edge so I can't see what might be before the number 2 (if anything). In researching serial numbers I have not seen any number prefixes so I'm a bit puzzled about this number 20. The number after the dash tells me that this is perhaps a 1927 model.
If you or anyone else here has any thoughts on anything I said, please feel free to share them with me. I really like this machine. It's now my 9th typewriter in my collection and looking forward to getting it back into shape.
Justin
The "20" part of the serial number indicates the carriage length of that particular typewriter and the rest of it is the actual serial number.
Your tab system is the so-called "decimal tabulator" and the numbers indicate how many spaces will be allowed before the decimal point for numbers of differing length and "TH'S" stands for thousands and "MIL" for "millions". It's an easy way to get numbers to line up on the decimal point without having to backspace from a regular tab. I expect you also have a regular tab system, too.
No, the carriage tension drop-off is not basically due to the long carriage. No manufacturer would have sent out a typewriter with a sluggish carriage. They might well have used a stronger spring on long carriage models, as you intuit, but they would not have tolerated sluggishness. Your problem is almost certainly dirt or rust on the carriage rails, or conceivably a mainspring weakened with age, probably the former.
Your "Lower Stencil Upper" label is the ribbon color selector. Usually when a bicolor ribbon is fitted the black is on top and the red beneath. The "Stencil" setting does not raise the ribbon at all and is used for making mimeograph (Look it up.) stencils.
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M. Höhne wrote:
TheMachineAge wrote:
T1peMOnkey, I know this thread is about a year old now but I just joined and saw your questions regarding a Royal 10 typewriter. I'm doing research on the one I just acquired at an antique shop in Kansas City, KS. I live in northern New Mexico. I have not done anything to the one I have yet but it works (grudgingly). I will get it back into shape both mechanically and visually, however, without too much problem. It is dirty but in very good condition overall.
The one I have has a very wide carriage. The platen itself is 20 inches wide. The carriage from platen knob to platen knob is 25 inches wide. It has an extra row of 10 tabulation keys above the standard QWERTY keyboard. It also has the tabulator mechanism on the back of the typewriter which is controlled by those tab keys. The tab keys are labeled as follows from left to right: (The first looks like a period, the 5th and 9th look like comas, and the "TH'S" letters are beneath the number next to them here as is the "MIL".
. 1 10 100 , 1000 10 TH'S 100 TH'S , 1 MIL
I have no idea what the period and coma notations are designed to represent. Otherwise there is no specific "TAB" key with any such TAB noted label. Just the one's shown above.
The letter and number keys are white with black letters. The tab keys are black with white letters. There are 3 Royal logo decals, all in gold: one on the back plate where the paper is inserted into the carriage, one on the curved faceplate just above the tab keys, and one on the back of the machine on the tabulator mechanism. They all appear to be the same size, shape, and color. There is also another logo on the paper back plate above the platen, not sure of the shape but it has the Royal typewriter image and "Royal" beneath it, sort of looks like a cup with a crown on top. There are 2 more decals on the back tabulator mechanism, one is the typewriter company where it came from in Topeka, KS, the other is the "protected by American and foreign patents" decal.
The carriage tension feels sluggish and especially loose when the carriage is far to the left. I was wondering if this is due to the fact that the carriage is so long? I have not cleaned the carriage rails yet but I saw that this was the recommended first step here so I will do that before I worry about the tension. I don't believe anything is missing on this machine. I even have all 10 of the tab setting pieces on the back tab slotted bar. When I brought it home 2 had fallen out in the car and fortunately I saw them and put them back.
There is also a "Lower Stencil Upper" label and lever on the right side front. Like the tab keys this is new to me so I don't know it's function at present.
Lastly I have a serial number but I'm unsure of the prefix as yet. It appears to be "20-1071044". The reason I'm unsure of the first part is that the tabulator mechanism on the back of the typewriter is attached to the frame and part of that is over the serial number plate. The "20-" is right at the front edge so I can't see what might be before the number 2 (if anything). In researching serial numbers I have not seen any number prefixes so I'm a bit puzzled about this number 20. The number after the dash tells me that this is perhaps a 1927 model.
If you or anyone else here has any thoughts on anything I said, please feel free to share them with me. I really like this machine. It's now my 9th typewriter in my collection and looking forward to getting it back into shape.
JustinThe "20" part of the serial number indicates the carriage length of that particular typewriter and the rest of it is the actual serial number.
Your tab system is the so-called "decimal tabulator" and the numbers indicate how many spaces will be allowed before the decimal point for numbers of differing length and "TH'S" stands for thousands and "MIL" for "millions". It's an easy way to get numbers to line up on the decimal point without having to backspace from a regular tab. I expect you also have a regular tab system, too.
No, the carriage tension drop-off is not basically due to the long carriage. No manufacturer would have sent out a typewriter with a sluggish carriage. They might well have used a stronger spring on long carriage models, as you intuit, but they would not have tolerated sluggishness. Your problem is almost certainly dirt or rust on the carriage rails, or conceivably a mainspring weakened with age, probably the former.
Your "Lower Stencil Upper" label is the ribbon color selector. Usually when a bicolor ribbon is fitted the black is on top and the red beneath. The "Stencil" setting does not raise the ribbon at all and is used for making mimeograph (Look it up.) stencils.
Yes, they have sent them out with larger spring drums--at least Royal has. I've seen the same size spring drums on the longer carriaged manuals as well as their electrics--they were both identically equipped with the larger spring drums. I did not say that they would send out a machine that didn't have enough spring tension on it. I said, or what I meant to say, was that the response on a longer carriage wouldn't be as quick as it is on a shorter carriage.
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Thank you TypewriterKing and M.Hohne for your thorough input on this typewriter. It had not occurred to me that the prefix of the serial number would indicate the carriage length but it surely makes sense now that you say it.
Regarding the tab settings, again your comments make sense when I hear that the comas indicate logical separators within numbers. I do have a Remington 30 (1925) that has a 10-key decimal system with an 18 inch platen. But the keys do not have numbers on them, they are just black, unlabeled keys. The numbers for each of them are on a strip of metal on the faceplate close to the base of, and above, the 10 tab keys. Those numbers run:
. 1 10 100 1000 10,000 100,000 1,000,000 10,000,000 100,000,000
So this is probably why I got confused about the comas. (My Remington 30, by the way, did not include the carriage length in the serial number area. Obviously different mfgrs do different things.)
Good to know Royal did their job on maintaining tension on a long carriage. I don't know what the normal tension wheel size is but on mine it appears to be large but I can only see the top part of it at present. It could be about 3 inches in diameter from what I can tell. Other than quite dirty, the tension band itself is in great shape.
I have looked carefully at all the other keys and do not see any "TAB" key but there is a "Margin Release" button to the right of the tab keys on the faceplate. I will spend some time on cleaning this machine over the next few weeks and tinker with various things to see how they function within it. I'm going to work on the dirty carriage rails first.
Again, thank you both for the education on this Royal.
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On a Royal, the wheel is very noticeably thicker, although probably not too noticeably larger in diameter (I'm thinking the innards on one of these machines may limit the diameter, but to me, the heavier one is quite a bit thicker, beefier looking). Get a Royal upright manual from about 1914 to about 1972 of normal carriage length up to around 13" if you have one, or borrow one just to look at. Put it side by side with your 20" carriage machine, and I'll bet you'll see the difference. Now, if you take an RE, meaning Royal Electric from about 1955 to about 1959, you'll see the same girth of spring drum as your 20", even though the carriage is shorter than the 20". I guess they didn't want to take any chances on a tank like a Royal RE. I've serviced many of those critters, and currently own two-- a 1957 and a 1959 model, with several others as spares.
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Oh, and one other thing--I once had a 14" carriaged Royal RE from 1955 that had a 10-key decimal tabulator in exactly the same configuration as you described (with some of the tab keys with commas on them). The whole thing was electrically actuated (WOW!!!). I later had a Remington Electric, same configuration as you described your Remington manual (I have one of those two--my Remington 30-30. I'm not making that up. That's what the machine has on the front of it. Guess they made two kinds of 30-30s). Anyway, the tabulator it had was manually operated (ho-hum). You'll definitely want to keep what you have. I regret letting go of my '55 RE back in 1984.).