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I picked up this Royal HH recently in Portland, OR. Cosmetically it's in good shape. The young man who sold it I believe was a student needing funds, and the variable didn't work. I was able to repair the variable and the platen is now free to move with no slop. It was very dirty inside. Someone earlier "serviced" it and left a huge amount of sticky oily residue that gummed up parts. It had vast quantities of lint, pet hair, and some kind of white powdery stuff I would've thought it was typing on drywall. A good vacuuming, some compressed air helped, but still the residue had to go. My auto shop temporarily served as a typewriter shop, so into the solvent tank it went. I did not dunk, but just directed a slow solvent stream to the undercarriage. A little more air blowing and it's very clean now. A small amount of light oil in the right places and it types very free. All action seems to work good, and the bell rings too.
My question on the key action is it seems extremely clattery? There's a lot of feedback to my fingers likes it's hammering, very harsh. The Royal 10 in comparison, or the RC Allen, seems smooth and sure throughout a stroke. Any opinions on this? Thanks.
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The HH has a fairly nice key action, so what you're describing doesn't sound right. It's not quiet, but I wouldn't call it "clattery" either. Did you check/adjust the touch control to see if it has any effect on what you're experiencing? Is what you're describing a result of a full key stroke (the slug impacting the ribbon)? If so I wouldn't rule out an extremely hard platen, so you could try using several pages of paper and see what effect that has.
On a different note, I was discussing the pros and cons of using automotive parts washers with a fellow collector the other day as an quicker and partial alternative to dunk cleaning. How effective was it? And which solvent are you using?
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My parts washer is from an automotive transmission shop. It didn't see abuse. It features an oil absorbing clay bag and a side mounted filter. I use a 5 micron filter. With the filter and clay bag, the solvent flow is clean and oil free and I can go years between changes.
The solvent I use is strictly Stoddard solvent or mineral spirits. It's not harsh to paint or coatings, but I do keep it away from decals and soundproofing. It's not as fast acting as brake cleaners, or chlorinated solvent; but safer and low evaporation. A soft brush is also necessary. I've read where a notable collector suggested carburetor dip or cleaner. NOOOOO! That stuff will dissolve anything it touches, so if your into looks, not a good idea to use. For spot cleaning I like electrical rated solvent such as CRC's QD Electronic Cleaner. It's pretty safe for most plastics though it might be harsh on painted embossings on thumb levers and bails. I believe the ethanol in it is what helps, so I look for that as to their harshness or not. I always have a few junk test pieces to try solvents on before I commit to something of value.
I did try the touch control, no noticeable difference in the "hammering" feel. I'm going to investigate "ring and cylinder", though it types good impressions. Probably nothing there, but learn as I go. The Royal 10 and HH both have hard platens, and yet the difference in touch is very noticeable between them.
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One other tip: lighter fluid such as Ronsonol is a very good "low impact" cleaner. Camera guys have used it for years. It's great for getting those stubborn stickies from label adhesives off and very safe for paint and practically all plastics.
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Well I like the idea of being able to use the same solvent for years, so I may add a much smaller parts cleaning station to my shop. I only hesitated from buying one because I thought it would go through too much solvent - which isn't cheap when you buy it in those larger drums.
Regarding ring adjustment, I'd be very cautious. If you manually lift a type bar until it makes contact with the ring you should be able to just slide a piece of paper between the type slug and platen (kind of like checking the gap on a spark plug). If you can I would look at other things and leave the ring alone.
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I agree with Uwe -- messing with the ring and cylinder adjustment is not to be taken lightly since takes you down the rabbit hole -- on feet adjustment, maybe the motion adjustment too. Better to leave it alone.
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I hear you loud and clear on the ring adjustment. The thing I noticed on the segment is that there is some embossing in spots on the ring much more pronounced than on the much older model 10. It seems to be related to keys on or close to the home row. I also checked the platen diameter. It's about .007" to about .010" smaller than factory spec. It shrunk? According to the repair guide, that's the limit Royal recommends for getting the platen replaced or recovered. Being that it is very hard, I will put it in the back lot until I have funds to have it recovered. I hate to fix something that ain't broke. Until then, it's still a riddle to solve as well.
Don't go too cheap on the solvent tank. You'll want sturdiness that doesn't wobble or flex with 40 lbs. of machine in it. A pump and filter goes a long way towards a satisfaction of having a clean machine and extended life of the solvent too. I found mine on craigslist a 2 hour drive away. It was worth the looking around at the new and used.
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I agree with Uwe -- messing with the ring and cylinder adjustment is not to be taken lightly since takes you down the rabbit hole -- on feet adjustment, maybe the motion adjustment too. Better to leave it alone.
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I never thought of looking for a used one, thanks for the suggestion. With regard to your platen, I wouldn't assume that the rubber shrunk. The factory spec size you mentioned could be for the standard platen, but there were also specialty platens available, even those made of brass or cork, which were used for allowing as many carbon copies as possible to be typed at once. Such slightly smaller diameter platens meant there was a larger gap between the type slug and rubber because the extra clearance was needed for all that extra paper and carbon sheets. It might be more telling to measure the existing clearance between the slug face and platen than to rely on some spec that might not apply to your specific HH.
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Reporting good news here. After spending some time watching the interplay of parts during a typing stroke, then holding the carriage and typing a letter; I noticed the "clattery" feel disappeared when holding the carriage. Escapement at fault or was it's action not smooth? Off went the carriage. Sure enough, there was still pet hair and some grime. Taking care to cover and prevent overspray, I cleaned it good with Brakleen which is a non-hydrocarbon solvent I use on vehicle brake parts. It really cuts the grime and grease. After a couple of drops of oil, it seemed much better. From what I could learn in the Ames manual, everything with the escapement seemed in order. I touched nothing. Then on went the carriage.
After a couple of paragraphs, then a few pages; I am convinced this typewriter is in perfect working order! I still will question why there's such deep impressions in the segment ring. I did check ring & cylinder for type slug contact with the platen per Uwe's suggestion. Only a few "end" keys such as the "Qq" the cents key on the right side or the "=+" key seemed to show a very slight gap. However they still typed good impressions, full character top to bottom. The case is now closed, on to work.