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Remington Deluxe Junior Broken Ribbon Assembly
My Remington Deluxe Junior. Functions perfectly except it does not feed the ribbon. The ribbon stays in the same spot, rather than advancing. Either direction. Inspection revealed some broken parts. I have provided images below for clarity.
As you can see, the arm on the left post that keeps tension against the ribbon is broken off. Looks like the nut that holds the tension arm assembly in place fell off. The tension spring came off. Appears that this spring got jammed under the left plate that holds the ribbon and became wound around that assembly. This seems to now prevent the left ribbon from turning either direction. I will try to carefully back this spring from around the assembly. My questions are:
1st:
Can I find a repair/service manual for the Junior/Deluxe Junior typewriter? (I have looked, & they all seem to be more general typewriter, and lack clear disassembly detail.)
2nd:
Assuming there is not a specific manual, can someone tell me how much of the typewriter I need to disassemble to remove the ribbon bar/rod if necessary, to repair the left ribbon mechanism?
3rd:
If I fix the spring issues, can the typewriter function correctly without this left tension arm? (I can machine a new tension arm if necessary but would rather not.)
4th:
Is the left arm assembly spring the same for both left and right sides? (Meaning, if I obtain a donor machine, could I use springs from the right side and still work?
5th:
Finally, does anyone know if the left ribbon tension piece is identical on any other Remington models like: Streamliner, Envoy, Remette, etc.? (As a source to scavenger parts from…….)
Thanks!
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Re: Remington Deluxe Junior Broken Ribbon Assembly
Hi BT
The ribbon spools on this design of typewriter are driven by the cross shaft with the two bevel gears. If you rotate the end of the shaft with your fingers, you should see the spool turntables trying to turn. The forward or reverse direction of the ribbon depends on the position of the cross shaft, driving one turntable or the other.
The position of the cross shaft is controlled by a pawl built into the ribbon tension arm assembly. As the spool runs out, the arm moves closer to the center of the spool and triggers the reverse. If you turn the cross shaft with no spools on the machine, the reversing system ends up fighting itself. The left hand broken tension arm will effect the ribbon drive system as the cross shaft will probably end up in limbo, not driving either turntable. Hope this gives you an idea of what you're looking for. All the best,
Sky
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Thanks skywatcher,
Understand. I came across a rough deluxe junior & purchased it. I checked and it apparently has a functioning spool system. When it arrives I will break it down (Not worrying because it is a parts machine). Try to figure it out, and apply that to my specimen. Will let you know.
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Re: Remington Deluxe Junior Broken Ribbon Assembly
Hi Again
Just took a look at a 1938 Remy Scout S/N CB159281 and it does not have the automatic ribbon reverse system, looks like it's up to the operator to change ribbon feed direction by moving the cross shaft from one side to the other.
Also, taking a closer look at your picture #2, the left tension spring appears to be wrapped around the ribbon turntable. Recommend you take a needle or something of the like and a pair of needle nose pliers and unhook the remains of the spring from around the turntable crown gear before attempting to go any further with repairs. All the best
We humans go through many computers in our lives, but in their lives, typewriters go through many of us.
In that way, they’re like violins, like ancestral swords. So I use mine with honor and treat them with respect.
I try to leave them in better condition than I met them. I am not their first user, nor will I be their last.
Frederic S. Durbin. (Typewriter mania and the modern writer)
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Re: Remington Deluxe Junior Broken Ribbon Assembly
Ok, thought I would provide an answer to the issue I was having. The left ribbon tension post was broken + the coil spring that provides the tension against the ribbon was wrapped around the spindle. It was really pretty easy to remove. I purchased a donor machine because it had the working pieces I needed. So, I used it as the Guinee pig to discover how it can be done. Four images below.
1) Broken post already removed (It easily fell off as the nut on the bottom side was missing)
2) The spindle post has a hole through the center. Just need some leverage for it to unscrew.
3) After removal, just a matter of lifting the spindle gear off.
4) As you can see, one end of the spring is still attached to the typewriter. The other somehow got wrapped around the spindle gear.
Replacement parts from the donor machine should fix the problem fine................
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Admin. Image for the above post should be much larger than displayed. Is there some reason it is this small instead of the size of my original post in this thread? Thanks!
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