Thanks. I think the consul is newer than my taste. I've been looking for about two years, checking eBay and elsewhere, I do see them come up now and then but nice, working ones, for too much money, or crap ones, that the seller thinks is worth piles. The value of something is really what you sell or buy for, so really who am I to know what exorbinate is. I've seen a number of Hermes machines, Baby etc, for $200+. That's rather encouraging, they maybe made a lot of Spanish Hermes Babys. I would LOVE one of those... that green color is,great.Which reminds me, I would like an Oliver at some point, but not now. Unless it has a spanish keyboard.. anyway whatever it is I want cheap and probably not working. I would rather do that and rebuild. Simple is better, I'm,a hapless novice about typewriters, but I'm learning... I haven't been on goodwill's website, I didn't know it existed until now. I live about 175 miles away, right in the middle of the state, in Ephrata, I've bought every typewriter that exists in this town, where I got my Rem. Noiseless 10, the awesomest typewriter ever, well, maybe not quite as awesome as my Fox 3 I just recently bought, in ephrata, which I am completely and utterly over the moon about.