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Early Typewriters » Are these Wagner-Underwoods? » 27-12-2015 01:06:52

I found some photos of a 1902 Wagner made Underwood No.4.   Note that the No.4 different from the No.5 in having 4 less keys; otherwise they are the same.  The No.4 was continued in smaller numbers in later years and at least into the teens.  In comparing Wagner made Underwood Nos. 4 and 5 from later models there are quite a few small detail differences but one has to know what to look for or have an example of Wagner and Underwood made machines together for comparison.

http://cambridgetypewriter.blogspot.com/2014/11/underwood-no4-repair-and-more.html

Early Typewriters » Are these Wagner-Underwoods? » 27-12-2015 00:59:53

Sorry for the loss of the format for my Underwood details which were all in separate lines.  Nothing I can do about that I guess.
 

Early Typewriters » Are these Wagner-Underwoods? » 27-12-2015 00:58:50

None of those are Wagner made typewriters from a quick look.   A Wagner Underwood will not have the "UT" decal on the paper table to the left of UNDERWOOD.  Of course that could have been changed.  The left side ribbon winder was continued for some years, up to about 1908.  I have photos of a 1903 Wagner made No.4 but, also, a 1903 Underwood made No.4 and assume that change from Wagner made to Underwood made occurred in 1904.  Below are some notes I have made based mostly on eBay Underwoods for which I could get the serial number to date the machines.   I don't see a way to add un-hosted photos to this forum which is too bad as I have some good photos I could add.Underwood details: 11287-4 1902, No.4, Wagner made machine, Peter Weil's12435-4 1902, No.4, Wagner made machine,  mine25070-5  1903, No.5, Wagner made30255-4 1903, No.4, margin release button appears on left front of machine. Have photos103879  1906  No.4,126410  1906  No.4, last patent date Jan 20, 1903, also has left side ribbon winding wheel151931-4  April 1907, has left side ribbon winding wheel.212128-4 1908-early 09, no left side ribbon winding wheel.234172   late 1908 or early 1909,  (mine), no ribbon selector or back space key255655  1909, No.4, Back Space key, no ribbon selector, May 14, 1907 last pat. date on rear276393  1909  has ribbon selector rocker key, May 14, 1907 last patent date, back space key286982  1909-10,  has ribbon selector rocker key354045  1910,  has back spacer key and ribbon rocker key.480056  1912  has back space key, ribbon selector, old shift lock lever, no variable line space620426  1914,  old style shift lock lever, no variable line space push button on left end of platen knob.800390 c.1915-16,  (Richard's) Has shift lock key and variable line space push button and back                                    space key.  Last pat. date July 1, 1913883716 c.1916,  has backspace key, Jan 12, 1915 last pat.982944 c.1917,   has varia

Early Typewriters » Royal 5 questions » 03-5-2015 14:55:09

I think that a lot of early typewriters did have a blue-grey color to the platen as I have seen many that way.   I hope you are enjoying your new Royal, they are very interesting typewriters.

Standard Typewriters » My new Monarch Visible » 16-3-2015 20:34:05

Let's resurrect this thread.   Last year a friend notified me that he had found a cover and base for a Monarch and, knowing that I had the No.2 shown in this thread, he offered the cover to me.  I love to have the metal covers for the old standard typewriters but they are not always easy to find.   I noted that the decal on the front of the case has an image of a No.1 Monarch but was wondering if that decal was used on the No.2 machines also.




Type Talk » Recent Acquisitions Thread » 05-6-2013 10:14:50

Steve Stephens
Replies: 1977

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Here is a link to a photo of the Remington No.6 which I mentioned in my post right above.  It is not as exciting as many of the machines in our collections but it has its own charm in its degraded state I think.

Much of this old typer was rusted either tightly or wanted to move only reluctantly.  Now the keys are all pretty smooth as well as the carriage and tab stops.  I have no plans to restore it or take it further since it is a parts machine.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=348637078596886&set=gm.586091628088212&type=1&theater

Type Talk » Recent Acquisitions Thread » 04-6-2013 10:34:39

Steve Stephens
Replies: 1977

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I bought a rusty old 1904 Remington No.6 at the flea market Sunday for $20.  I needed a shoulder screw and the small coiled spring at the pivot point of the line advance lever (carriage return).  Considering that the typewriter (parts) were right there I felt ok about buying a junker.  I also needed the paper shelf but it had poor paint.

I found out later that night that I made a very good buy because I soon became aware that it was a machine that I was not hesitant to work on and to try to see how things worked.  Many of the typebars were very stiff so some drops of Liquid Wrench got them moving, all but the "O" which had it's wooden lever under the tyepwriter disengaged from the rear where it fits over a part of the frame.  

I figured out how to locate it properly then turned my attention to another letter which was not operating.  The rod that hooks to the typebar pivot had come loose and I was quickly able to see how it went back together.

So, a junker for not too much money ($20 but still a hunk of change for a "useless" typewriter) was, for me, a very good deal.  And I can work on it some more and will have to to get that pesky shoulder screw loose.

The carrage was not moving either when I got it.  Rusted in place but soon I got that moving pretty well.   When I say junker it's not too bad to restore but I doubt that anyone would ever take on the task on a relatively common machine.  I have three others; 1894 and two 1907s.

Two other new typewriters:  A very nice working Smith Premier No.10 and a clean Underwood No.5 (1923 I think) with a unique metal and felt soundproof box that the typewriter sits into.  You may have seen it on ebay in March.

Parts » Help Please! I am in need of LC Smith Parts » 28-5-2013 16:50:58

Yes, I do remember some recommendations for photo hosting services.  Right now I have more to do than to pick one and, after the fiasco with Photobucket, I surely don't want to download my photos to a site that I may not be happy with.  I hope that I will get around to picking a host sooner than later but now is not the time.  If anyone wants to request a photo by email of the L.C. Smith ribbon spool thumbnuts I will be happy to send some photos.

Parts » Help Please! I am in need of LC Smith Parts » 27-5-2013 23:43:50

Uwe wrote:

Steve, could you post a few detailed photos of these nuts? I have a pretty good idea from your description how they function and I still think that a substitute of some kind would be readily available.

I'd happily post photos but how?  Photobucket ruined my album when they switched to the new format so I don't have a usable photo host.  Is there another way?  I really wish photos could be posted here directly.
 

Type Talk » Early Royal Standard for sale - Opinions? » 27-5-2013 19:55:16

I agree with what others have said.  Royal Standards are not an everyday occurance but they are not rare either.  

I won an early Standard a few months ago here-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-ANTIQUE-ROYAL-STANDARD-FLATBED-STAIRCASE-TYPEWRITER-/350740589124
Click on the photo and you will get the main auction page and photos.

One keytop is missing but it's a very early Standard, Ser. No. 8706 with the last date on the rear of May 1906.  Overall it's fairly clean and in good condition.  I think it will clean up will.  Just hoping I can acquire a celluloid key for the one missing.  The very early Standards have celluloid keytops unlike later Standards and much later Royals with glass keytops.

A collector near me has serial # 524, a very interesting machine, also with the large "R" on the side like mine.

You may have to look for a while for a decent Standard but I have seen a number of them on ebay in the year and a half that I have been collecting.

The absence of the correct ribbon spools or, at least, ones similar to the originals is a problem as they are hard to find.

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